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guevera verreuil · Nov 08, 2008, 08:36 AM // 08:36

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

In this disqualification incident, we didn't actually have to bump any of the next-highest ranking winners up. We could have left the spot vacated by the disqualified entry empty.

well <_<
i'm glad you didn't xD

i'm just as grateful now as i was when i placed

Shadow Kurd · Nov 08, 2008, 08:59 AM // 08:59

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Originally Posted by guevera verreuil

well <_<
i'm glad you didn't xD

i'm just as grateful now as i was when i placed

I 2nd that, GJ Regina

KiyaKoreena · Nov 08, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

I was taught to respond to what I think is fair and not. Not having originally made the top 40 I could live with and was at that point planning how I could improve it. With how I was raised I believe it is not fair for my entry to be bumped when it looks like favoritism because of comments outside the judging. Yes, I know the world is not fair but that doesnt mean I cant do what I think to try and make it more so. This is not me being greedy, this is me thinking of others that 'were just shy of the list' and believing if I wasnt originally good enough to make it that there must have been someone else that was voted better and who hadn't posted their entry for others to see and comment on and cause possible influence when a spot opened. It strongly goes against my beliefs to have favorites played like that, and being the one being favorited was actually hurtful and insulting and not something I wanted to tolerate. If there wasn't a back up list agreed on by the judges than the space should be empty. That is what I was taught was fair for judged contests.

Below is the email that I was sent in reply for others to see. You confirmed to me that I wasn't actually next in line and that I was given the spot because of a coworkers suggestion and not because of a list that existed outside the top 40 as backup. You say you dont read the forums fully so the comments about my entry did not cause you to add me, but keep in mind those comments very well might have influenced that coworker's decision to ask I be bumped. I did not say that entries outside the top 40 were never judged on but that I seriously doubted I was magically 41 (and yes, my feelings on it). This makes in my mind awarding it to me unfair to the other entrants and I could not in good conciousness accept that. I did not want a prize in a judged contest if it was not actually voted to be there. I was right that I was not actually judged as next in line and so counted it as a pity prize. It was not voted on by the judges to be there so it shouldnt have been put there. Everyone should be subject to the same rules and processes.

If others were in my spot and held the same beliefs of right and wrong they might understand my viewpoint more but I do not expect everyone to. This is the last I plan on posting on this matter since I have already derailed this thread enough. If people understand my viewpoint, great. If they want to write me off as being ungrateful, that is their choice.

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Dear Regina,

I respectfully request that the prize go to the person who was actually judged as #41. That my entry just happened to be one step off the list after the comments on the fan forums about my work being overlooked is beyond belief and one can only come to the conclusion that my name was bumped up solely because such comments and not because it was actually judged. To add me as a pity prize is insulting to my work and a shameful act of pandering. By removing my name it will allow me to alter and resubmit my entry next year and hope for a fair judging. Thank you.

Sincerely, Koreena

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Dear Koreena:

It is, of course, your prerogative to decline.

My information about the disqualified entry came on the day of the winners announcement, in private, not from the fan forums. I am not intimately familiar with what you report as controversy surrounding your specific entry. This is because it is not productive for me watch these discussions closely, as I cannot do a thing if the aesthetic opinions of players differs from the aesthetic opinions of my coworkers. It is not an efficient use of my time to pay detailed attention to discussions that I can do absolutely nothing about.

I read scores and scores of forum posts every single day, and I need to skim through and filter the information I need very rapidly. In the case of the Halloween art contest, I skimmed the forums for specific action-items, things that I could actually do something about, in this case – the accusations of plagiarism and rule-breaking.

It was actually suggested to me by a fellow staff member that you be awarded the prize. I was originally not going to award an alternate to the empty Finalist slot. Whether they wanted to award the prize to you for “pity” as you say, I honestly don’t know, because I did not question their judgment or their taste in what they found aesthetically pleasing about your entry. I took their opinions about your art at face value, and didn’t insinuate any kind of political agenda on their part. The fact that you have come to such a conclusion is actually a little hurtful.

Before you leap to conclusions, I would ask you to consider that you may not have all the information on which to base those conclusions, and that decisions made may not have any underlying conspiracy or political agenda behind them.

Thank you for your letter, and good luck next year.

Regards,
Regina G. Buenaobra

/endwalloftext

The results have been adjusted accordingly. Back to discussing the other great entries please.

pumpkin pie · Nov 09, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

I Elite Starchild I

I want your kitty cat!! I mean Dying Nightmare! Thats a creative idea! did it go trick or treating with you guys?

Did you guys (who made costume) really go trick or treating in the costume you made?

Judging: Entries will be judged equally on the basis of creativity, style, and the melding of Halloween into a Guild Wars theme.

Just a topic to talk about, how do you decide which entry has holloween meld into it and which does not? How can anyone infact Judge on that?

**cosyfiep** · Nov 09, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52

I was not surprised by the outcome....

I was surprised that the judges were unaware of the copied artwork...that is a new one.

same stuff different year.

Faer · Nov 09, 2008, 09:33 AM // 09:33

Wait, what? Large crafted art gets nothing while stolen art and ancient cosplays (albeit rather good ones) get top honors? Just when I thought the ArenaNet offices were going clean, I find out people are still smoking joints in there.

Man, what a let-down.

pumpkin pie · Nov 09, 2008, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by Faer

Wait, what? Large crafted art gets nothing while stolen art and ancient cosplays (albeit rather good ones) get top honors? Just when I thought the ArenaNet offices were going clean, I find out people are still smoking joints in there.

Man, what a let-down.

Last years was a good example, does not matter if you do a good art work or not!

Apparently they've gotten permission to use the artwork.

What this story teaches you! learn to make costumes for halloween contest!

Kashrlyyk · Nov 09, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by kokuou

It does, but this was a contest specifically for Halloween.....

That wasn´t a problem the years before, so why should it be now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiyaKoreena

I was taught to respond to what I think is fair and not. ....

/thumbsup

AKB48 · Nov 09, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

It's amusing how people get all fed up over such a trivial thing, it always is here on Guru

Deadshot Seven · Nov 09, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

I made a mask that your character or hero wears when it uses avatar of grenth, but I didn't have enough time to glaze it...

BenjZee · Nov 09, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Theres always next year ^

Apollo Smile · Nov 09, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

ITT, people don't think a costume is Halloween related. Anyways, time to go do some more COSTUME brawls.

Owik Gall · Nov 10, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Grand Prize pic is live action Gwen! EPIC!

TakagiNaoSama · Nov 10, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

Thank you, Owik ^_^

Nian · Nov 10, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd

Where's your entry Nian

Didn't make one. That one time was enough LOL! I'm currently into making game dats for FFXI.

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Originally Posted by KiyaKoreena

Edited for bitterness:
I find it very hard to believe that I just happened to be #41 and got bumped up. Call me a sore loser or whatever. I am declining the prize, and unsure to what I will do next year. I don't want a pity prize and it is too unbelievable and coincidental.

Waaaaaaht!? Didn't you already win a mini kanaxai last year. Chill out.

And nice job Regina on dealing with the one ripoff. That was fast hehe. You must be a ninja!